Singing Accents redux

 I know that performers transitioning to American accents when they burst into song is a pet peeve of John's (in fact I was looking for a thread on it but the discussion must have taken place in review comments). 

Anyway, an article on stuff this morning is of interest with respect to this: It suggests that there is a "pop accent" which is more or less american and "just sounds right" and that this is a worldwide phenomenon without any conscious decision from the singers:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/3965970/Kiwis-sing-in-American-accent

Thanks Richard. A discussion came off my review of He Reo Aroha (which is where Michael Wray first posted the link to the Stuff article – also printed in fuller form in this morning's Dominion Post) and that sparked a Forum entitled Auto colonization.

Here is what I've written to the Dominion Post:

Owning our own accent

I disagree “Kiwi accents now sounded quite jarring when sung” (29/7). Both Flight of the Conchords, singing ‘Kiwi Folk' (rather than their parody songs) and The Lonesome Buckwhips, singing ‘Kiwi Country', sound perfectly natural, going nowhere near the ‘Fred Dagg' level of accent.

I do agree adopting American accents for pop song genres has happened worldwide – consider The Rolling Stones – except The Beatles became internationally famous using their Liverpool voices. Although punk is said to have started in the USA (The Ramones) it was The Sex Pistols who made it famous, so Kiwi Punk adopted a cockney accent, right?

Imitation may be a form of flattery but if Kiwi singers want to achieve global distinction with popular music, they need to explore and exploit their point of difference, as the Conchords and Buckwhips have done.

Our actors and broadcasters dropped their phoney RADA and BBC accents decades ago. It's time our singers grew up too.

John Smythe
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And here is what brother Michael has sent to The Herald:

Pop singing accent

Michael Smythe

Our artists are supposed to be leaders in cultural identity and expression? 

Why would we engage on such a topic with one who doesn't even know what an artist is? 

Dane, there are true artists, con artists, bullshit artists …  

A true artist creates in a unique and authentic ‘voice'. Thus those who share cultural roots collectively express a cultural identity, consciously or otherwise, which they or observing commentators articulate over time. And because the best are exploring new territories, or going deeper into the known, or looking at it a different way, they tend to be seen as leaders.

Imitation, btw, is a craft not an art, although craftspeople are also called artisans.

Was Mad Max one of the highest grossing low budget films ever made because of the authentic Aussie accents or the wicked car chases? That film could have been made in any English speaking country, John. It was ENTERTAINING.

The global distinction argument you put forward is rubbish. Our stuff is too distinct to travel if anything. 

Right, so that's why our Mad Max-inspired imitation Battle Truck died at the box office is it (does anyone remember Bruno Lawrence for that?) while Once Were Warriors broke all records? Oh and the other Australian film to put them on the map in 1979 was My Brilliant Career – absolutely rooted in its own soil. They were breakthrough films for the Australian film industry because they were Australian films.

Mel Gibson and Judy Davis were unknown actors who were cast by brave producers and directors who knew what they wanted, and both actors went on to have international careers because they got their breaks in roles they could – and did – do authentically: that extra dimension of truth that made the world take notice. Likewise Geoffrey Rush in Shine, Cate Blanchett in Paradise Road and Oscar and Lucinda, Hugo Weaving in Proof and Priscilla Queen of the Desert …

Sam Neill would have remained undiscovered if he hadn't been in Sleeping Dogs; likewise Temuera Morrison, Cliff Curtis and Rena Owen in Once Were Warriors … Now that's distinction for you.

 Or Kerry Fox in Angel at my Table, Keisha Castle-Hughes in Whale Rider, Anna Paquin in The Piano... The list goes on. NZ's most successful exports have been a result of uniquely New Zealand stories and characters that have struck a chord internationally, because of their uniqueness.

Exactly Simon, very well put. Distinction breeds distinction,

John, that's my point! Battle-truck was a bad film. Once were Warriors was a good film. A film or play can be unique yet bad. Uniqueness is not a pre-requiste for quality or success, is what I am saying. Quality and/or its entertainment factor, is. 

This extra dimension of truth you talk of John, doesn't amount to an argument. The Aussie films were mention were good, period. Is Judy Davis any less truthful in her international roles? What an insult.

One can always argue for point of difference, sure. It can undoubtably play a part, but quality plays the greater part and distinction doesn't equal quality. 

Geoffrey Rush is a great actor John! He played a convincing Peter Sellers in a film biopic on the great actor. It's got nothing to do with him being Australian, or being first discovered speaking with an Australian accent. What an absurdity. He's a world class character actor, as was evidenced in Shine... so is Judy Davis. You make no point. 

Sorry... I have to laugh... Mad Max is an Australian story?.... Had an extra dimension of truth? It's a post apocalyptic revenge fantasy story!

I'm not taking anything away from the international success of our actors or directors. But the distinction argument, I fear, does. These names you mention, Simon, are great actors who first appeared in some great films. I give credit to their craft not their nationality. 

As one Dane to another: “There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so.” And no-one thinks in a vacuum. No-one acts in a vacuum either. Although there may be a vacuum in your head, mate, because ‘shit and derision' as some poet once said, it is you who have totally failed to get the point.

Thomas's post seems to have disappeared. What a bother, it was really rather funny.

Yes, I did that because having corrected 'bother' to 'brother' it sort of no longer made sense. Got a good chuckle from it, though.

I know that, but I think you should have kept both your mistake and Thomas's post. That way it would make sense and be funny. But never mind!

This is a great contribution!  http://www.v48hours.co.nz/screening-room/2011/wellington/god-bless-america/ 

Phantom's John. Phantom's. It's always external isn't it? The real enemy is mediocrity and the only personal who can slay that Dragon is the artist themself. 

What's the Phantom's John got to do with this topic?

 the misplaced apostrophe or 'bother's lure'

 Do we all feel better now?